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Post by Twisty Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:59 am

I thought I would have a go at predicting what this years BIF card might look like.

Match 1

CM Funk v Rasta

Match 2
Number 1 Contendership for European and Freeweight Championship

Kuinshi v Fanatic v Kenji Hidari

Match 3
6WF Tag Team Championship Match - Triple Threat Tornado Tag

The Consultancy (c) v Udo Berg and Visage v Dopant Zero

Match 4
I Quit Match

Scorpion v Solomon Riddick

Match 5
6WF European / 6WF Freeweight Title Match - Champion v Champion

James McManus (c) v Cameron Faith (c)

(After a brutal match ends in a no contest, Kenji Hidari runs in with Walker and the referee, and says he is taking his no.1 contender shot now. He ends up pinning both McManus and Faith in quick succession. Thus becoming Re-Genesis’ double champion)

Match 6
Loser leaves Re-Genesis

Lex Hart v Geoff Steel

(Hart has joined Re-Genesis and starts talking down Steel’s credentials, because he lost his chance for the FFTR case at Chaos and lost at the Gold Rush even when he comes in at number 30. Walker stops the infighting by making this match. Lex would win, and after a few weeks Steel would return as a face)

Match 7
6WF Hardcore Title Match – Last Man Standing

Lucas Takeo (c) v Crime Lord

Match 8
Finlay's Last Match

Finlay v TGA

Match 9

Keith Leone v Dicey Riley

Main Event 1
TAW World Title Match

Mike Hill (c) v Max Adamson v Marshall Murdoch

Main Event 2
6WF World Title Match

Cassius Zhi (c) v Logan Kincade (Fight for the Right winner) v Mr Kenty (Gold Rush winner)

(The story here is Kenty wins the Gold Rush and Kincade decides to cash in on Cassius at Born in Fire, as previous attempts to cash in have been thwarted by Re-Genesis)

What do you think? And what about your own card?


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Post by Olly Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:44 am

I'll do mine a bit closer to the time, I might get something sort of right then haha!

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Post by Twisty Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:45 am

Coward Laugh

What do you think? If that was the card, would you be happy?

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Post by Olly Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:49 am

I'm not sure I see both the world title matches being multi-man matches tbh, but other than that it looks like some serious sexual chocolate

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Post by Twisty Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:21 am

Problem is there are a lot of guys that deserve a shot. Actually, "problem" is the wrong word. It is a good thing to have for the fed, but a headache for creative. Blame the number of high quality promoers we have.

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Post by CJ Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:41 am

My one problem with that card is why would Walker do anything to appease Leone when they hate one another? TGA vs. Leone without the stipulation would work better in my eyes.

Also noticed a lack of Finlay's last match

I'll get my card up tonight probably.

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Post by Twisty Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:33 pm

I knew I forgot someone!

That just puts a massive spanner in the works. I will re-edit.


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Post by Dicey Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:33 pm

Dicey and Marshall are wasted in that match tbh, why would Dicey go from a feud with Leone to being Mike Hill's enforcer?? and Marshall should be in a No1 contenders match with Kenty and probably Max

Leone vs Cass as the Main Event 

I cant see Lex joining Re-Genesis or Steel turning face
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Post by Twisty Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:42 pm

Maybe then swap Leone for Finlay.

Main Event 1 is now Hill v Adamson v Murdoch
Match 8 is Finlay v TGA
New Match is Dicey v Leone

It is difficult. I really wanted Adamson and Dicey to be involved with each other some how because of your promo when you attacked Patricks. That is why I added Dicey to that Main Event.

And I disagree Dicey.....I definitely see Hart joining Re-Genesis.

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Post by Nay Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:51 pm

I would have Dicey and Max for world title. Max finally winning the big one in tribute to patricks. I would have it against dicey due to  patricks being diceys character.

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Post by Twisty Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:56 pm

See that's what I thought BUT I think Adamson is going to become next TAW champion on the back of Patricks' death. However, I think Hill will be champ all the way until BiF.

So the only conclusion I could have drawn was having Dicey and Adamson in the match with Hill. And then obviously I had to add Marshall to that mix.

EDIT - Changed it a bit but I really wanted it to be Marshall v Hill v Dicey v Adamson for the TAW Championship. But then I needed to find room for Finlay. Only other possible way was to make the Main Event 1 a 6 Man Match and add Dicey and Leone to it.

It is a toughie. You feel like people who deserve that shot are missing out. I am happy with the 6WF title match which I think Kincade will win. And whatever format the TAW title match is, I think Adamson will win. So both have to be part of those matches.

I might even sandwich Finlay's last match inbetween the main events to spread out the multi man matches.

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Post by Marsh Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:29 pm

I don't in all honesty see Marshall still being in world title contention come BIF (yes I'm that optimistic about winning on Sunday Laugh)

I also think that's there will be a big 6WF v ReGenesis match at some point, possibly at BiF to end the Re-Genesis storyline, so perhaps Marshall/Leone/Consultancy/Saint (if he's still around) vs Dicey/Hill/Cassius/Udo & Visage is a possibility, although that could mean 1 or possibly both world titles not being defended

I think Max will win the Gold Rush and close out the show, no idea who against though

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Post by Crimey Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:39 pm

Match 1
European Championship
Mr. Kenty (c) vs. Scorpion vs. Cameron Faith

Match 2
6WF Tag Team Championship
The Consultancy (c) vs. Dopant Zero vs. Kuinishi/JamesMcManus

Match 3
6WF Hardcore Championship
Lukas Takeo (c) vs. Lex Hart vs. Kenji Hidari

Match 4
Finlay vs. Blue Dragon

Match 5
Cassius Zhi vs. Solomon Riddick

Match 6
Geoff Steel vs. The Saint

Main Event 1
TAW World Championship
Max Adamson (c) vs. Keith Leone vs. Dicey Reilly vs. Marshall Murdoch

Main Event 2
6WF World Championship
Logan Kincade (c) vs. Crime Lord

(For me, the main reason this should happen is for Logan to finally put down Crime Lord, as so far I don't think he's had that final win to cement him. If he could have a long dominant world title run and then Crime Lord looks like he is doing his usual run to the top only for Kincade to destroy him, gets Kincade over big.)

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Post by Twisty Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:47 pm

Are you WUMing Laugh

Kenty deserves more than match 1

Lex Hart is not a Hardcore wrestler IMO

Cassius will be in the ME scene. And for Saint AND Zhi not to hold the 6WF title, Saint needs to win at Chaos and then lose to Kincade at Destiny. Can't see it myself.

Main Event 1, I agree on, although Hill is missing (from the entire card actually)

Main Event 2.......yeah you are defo pulling our legs. Laugh

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Post by 6WF Admin Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:55 pm

Twist, you're forgetting that you left off Finlay and had Walker place Leone in a #1 contenders match despite originally stopping him from ever holding a world title.

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Post by Twisty Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:57 pm

I admit Finlay, but I didn't say anything about Leone being in a no.1 contenders match Neutral

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Post by Crimey Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:57 pm

Twisty wrote:Are you WUMing Laugh

Kenty deserves more than match 1

Lex Hart is not a Hardcore wrestler IMO

Cassius will be in the ME scene. And for Saint AND Zhi not to hold the 6WF title, Saint needs to win at Chaos and then lose to Kincade at Destiny. Can't see it myself.

Main Event 1, I agree on, although Hill is missing (from the entire card actually)

Main Event 2.......yeah you are defo pulling our legs. Laugh


It's Born in Fire, match places shouldn't make a jot of difference, just swap a couple around so that match is in 6 or something.

I'm not saying Lex Hart is a Hardcore wrestler, neither was Abe Abercorn yet he had arguably the best Hardcore Title run ever, it's a nice contrast to see Lex Hart try to do it without weapons.

Or lose the world title on a Lockdown perhaps?

I know he is, I think he'll be written off with the world title run his last big run. 

I think it'd be the perfect feud ender.

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Post by CJ Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:01 pm

Lex held the Extreme Title in 6CW before

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Post by Twisty Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:08 pm

Sorry Crimey, I just think there are other people ahead of you in that queue. I can't see Crime Lord jumping the likes of Zhi after the Re-Genesis story that is building up. If Saint wins at Chaos, he would be more likely to face Kincade.

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Post by 6WF Admin Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:08 pm

I think Crime Lord v Logan for the world title will happen eventually.

No mention of McGraw, Twist?

Crimey, are Udo and Visage dead?

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Post by Twisty Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:12 pm

He will be involved somehow Laugh

That said, I think Marshy was right that there might very well be a Re-Gen v 6WF battle. Maybe Walker is in Dicey's corner and McGraw's in Leone's for their match.

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Post by CJ Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:19 pm

Match 1
CM Funk/Rasta vs. Zheng/Killer
 
Match 2
Tag Titles
Udo Berg/Visage vs. Dopant Zero vs. Consultancy
 
Match 3
FreeWeight Title
Kenji Hidari © vs. Kuinshi vs. Cameron Faith
 
Match 4
Hardcore Title
Lucas Takeo © vs. Lex Hart
 
Match 5
European Title
Fanatic © vs. James McManus
 
Match 6
Farewell Match
Finlay vs. Max Adamson
 
Match 7
Street Fight
Keith Leone vs. Dicey Reilly
 
Match 8
6WF World Title no.1 Contenders match
TGA vs. Crime Lord vs. Geoff Steel
 
Match 9
TAW Title no. 1 Contenders match
Solomon Riddick vs. Scorpion
 
Main Event 1
TAW Title
Mike Hill © vs. Marshall Murdoch vs. Mr Kenty
 
Main Event 2
6WF World Title
Cassius Zhi © vs. Logan Kincade vs. Blue Dragon

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Post by Crimey Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:30 pm

Rich wrote:I think Crime Lord v Logan for the world title will happen eventually.

No mention of McGraw, Twist?

Crimey, are Udo and Visage dead?

 
I think when Blue Dragon returns I can see those two characters dropping off a little and probably being written out before BiF. 

I think Crime Lord vs. Logan for the world title should happen for Logan's sake, and think the booking has been done this way on purpose. Crime Lord beat Logan when nobody else could for the Hardcore title then beat him again when Logan tried to get it back, then Logan's only real victory over Crime Lord was when Crime Lord had already been through Hardcore Hell, it makes perfect sense that Logan needs to beat Crime Lord, one on one properly, to be taken seriously as the world champion. It books itself, although I think that it might not have chance to manoeuvre itself that way by Born in Fire. 

Kincade has Fight for the Right remember Twist, he could cash in at Chaos, leaving neither Saint or Cassius with the title. Born in Fire is still a long way away, 4 months is a long time for things to change, even with only two PPVs. I think that will just mean bigger things might happen on Lockdown instead. 

Crime Lord could easily jump the queue with the Gold Rush, and if Kincade wins the world title at Chaos, that means you have that match set up quite easily.

I think you're overstating how important a "main event" scene is in 6WF, I think all the feuds of my card could be seen on equal footing and don't think it really matters where you're placed on the card.

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Post by Marky Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:45 pm

I love how its a sure thing Adamson's going to win the World Title as a Patricks tribute, but i'm not so sure...

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Post by Paul Mac Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:51 pm

I still can't see Lex getting involved in the Re-Gen stuff, he has distanced himself from it since the 6CW vs 6WF match and Walker has moved on so much since he was under Lex's command - I think Lex needs to snap at some point and a losing feud against Kenty would do that, where he goes then is anybodies guess - I would like him to target a belt, at any level he needs to wear gold to make himself feel complete again

Looking at the rest of the card, putting my bookers head on. I would go with the Logan/Crime Lord match for the Heavyweight belt -  I agree that Logan needs that to truly cement himself at that level and needs a clean win over Crime Lord

 
Match 1
Tag Titles
 Dopant Zero vs. Consultancy
 
Match 3
FreeWeight Title
Kenji Hidari © vs. Kuinshi vs. Cameron Faith
 
Match 4
Hardcore Title
Lucas Takeo © vs. Cassius Zhi
 
Match 5
European Title
Fanatic © vs. James McManus vs Lex Hart
 
Match 6
Farewell Match
Finlay vs. Hobo
 
Match 7
Street Fight
Keith Leone vs. Dicey Reilly
 
Match 8
6WF World Title no.1 Contenders match
TGA vs. Geoff Steel vs Blue Dragon
 
Match 9
TAW Title no. 1 Contenders match
Solomon Riddick vs. Scorpion
 
Main Event 1
TAW Title
Mike Hill © vs. Marshall Murdoch vs. Mr Kenty vs Max Adamson
 
Main Event 2
6WF World Title
Logan Kincade © vs Crime Lord

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Post by Crimey Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:57 pm

Two thirds of 6WF (Marky) wrote:I love how its a sure thing Adamson's going to win the World Title as a Patricks tribute, but i'm not so sure...

 I don't actually think it'll be as a Patricks tribute, I think Adamson is going to be heel and say he did it all himself, he did it for himself not for Patricks.

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Post by 6WF Admin Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:58 pm

If Max doesn't take this seriously and does anything related to Anchorman again he'll be lucky to make the pre-show! Laugh

Crimey, are you doing the Trashies this year?

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Post by Crimey Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:02 pm

Rich wrote:If Max doesn't take this seriously and does anything related to Anchorman again he'll be lucky to make the pre-show! Laugh

Crimey, are you doing the Trashies this year?

 
Yeah I can do them again.

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Post by 6WF Admin Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:03 pm

Cool!

I'll take a segment again.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:06 pm

Scorpion v Solomon for the no1 conterndership to the TWA title? 
would be shocked if that happened, cant see it myself lol

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Post by Olly Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:06 pm

Loving that people see Takeo as Hardcore Champ going into BIF Cool 

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Post by 6WF Admin Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:09 pm

Dr. Bull Ramoray wrote:Scorpion v Solomon for the no1 conterndership to the TWA title? 
would be shocked if that happened, cant see it myself lol

Me either.

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Post by Olly Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:11 pm

I'll also say I can deffo see a Kincado/Crime Lord match at BIF to finish off the feud, and wouldn't be surprising for it to be a world title bout

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Post by Marky Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:14 pm

Rich wrote:
Dr. Bull Ramoray wrote:Scorpion v Solomon for the no1 conterndership to the TWA title? 
would be shocked if that happened, cant see it myself lol

Me either.

What about for the TAW Title?

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:16 pm

Laugh Well played 
*Bi just dont see that match happing for the TAW title lol, i think that there might be a split up match but not for a title contendership

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Post by 6WF Admin Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:16 pm

Two thirds of 6WF (Marky) wrote:
Rich wrote:
Dr. Bull Ramoray wrote:Scorpion v Solomon for the no1 conterndership to the TWA title? 
would be shocked if that happened, cant see it myself lol

Me either.

What about for the TAW Title?

Still can't see it.

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Post by Twisty Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:06 pm

Everyone was pretty much wrong Laugh

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Post by 6WF Admin Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:02 pm

Olly wrote:Loving that people see Takeo as Hardcore Champ going into BIF Cool 

Worst decision ever.

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